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		<title>By: mike</title>
		<link>/2008/02/29/frontbridges-88blacklistzap/comment-page-2/#comment-19923</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[mike]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Aug 2011 07:48:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.planetmike.com/2008/02/29/frontbridges-88blacklistzap/#comment-19923</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[One thing is, everything is touched by microsoft like a gravy sauce that taste sour pewky. mean they do things without logic. We dont have anything that could be spam. we just recently send a request to Staple.ca store and we received back message was resend saying not delivered. 

since then every business they are with this global.frontbridge.com ... we tell them to close our account with them and we do business with less nutshell.  many of us (businesses) we have discussed about this illogic and we decided to do our own server mail without restriction... we count more then 2400 business we send what we want without headach.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing is, everything is touched by microsoft like a gravy sauce that taste sour pewky. mean they do things without logic. We dont have anything that could be spam. we just recently send a request to Staple.ca store and we received back message was resend saying not delivered. </p>
<p>since then every business they are with this global.frontbridge.com &#8230; we tell them to close our account with them and we do business with less nutshell.  many of us (businesses) we have discussed about this illogic and we decided to do our own server mail without restriction&#8230; we count more then 2400 business we send what we want without headach.</p>
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		<title>By: Jean-claude</title>
		<link>/2008/02/29/frontbridges-88blacklistzap/comment-page-2/#comment-16182</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Jean-claude]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Jan 2009 14:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.planetmike.com/2008/02/29/frontbridges-88blacklistzap/#comment-16182</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Same problem, since this morning our web server is in this f***ing list, we don&#039;t send spam, have only 20 website on the server and no mailing list or anything else...
That&#039;s incredible, frontbridge sounds like e-terrorist.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same problem, since this morning our web server is in this f***ing list, we don&#8217;t send spam, have only 20 website on the server and no mailing list or anything else&#8230;<br />
That&#8217;s incredible, frontbridge sounds like e-terrorist.</p>
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		<title>By: DWalk</title>
		<link>/2008/02/29/frontbridges-88blacklistzap/comment-page-2/#comment-16175</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[DWalk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Dec 2008 14:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.planetmike.com/2008/02/29/frontbridges-88blacklistzap/#comment-16175</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[Same here.  We are a small auto dealership that hosts our own webserver. We use SonicWall&#039;s email appliance to detect both incoming and outgoing spam.  Yet, somehow, we are blacklisted on Microsoft&#039;s 88.blacklist.  What a bunch of B.S.

I have explained to some of our customers and vendors the problems we are having and that they should stop hosting their email using FrontBridge services.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Same here.  We are a small auto dealership that hosts our own webserver. We use SonicWall&#8217;s email appliance to detect both incoming and outgoing spam.  Yet, somehow, we are blacklisted on Microsoft&#8217;s 88.blacklist.  What a bunch of B.S.</p>
<p>I have explained to some of our customers and vendors the problems we are having and that they should stop hosting their email using FrontBridge services.</p>
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		<title>By: Avshesh Chopra</title>
		<link>/2008/02/29/frontbridges-88blacklistzap/comment-page-2/#comment-16156</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Avshesh Chopra]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Dec 2008 06:57:57 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid isPermaLink="false">http://www.planetmike.com/2008/02/29/frontbridges-88blacklistzap/#comment-16156</guid>
		<description><![CDATA[We are using an ISP public IP to relay mails. WE are a small company can not afford to host all the users in IDC. Out IP is also listed in this 87.blacklist.zap, because of which we are unable to send the mails to anyone. Can I request you to please remove our IP once for all. The reason why my IP always goes to SPAM is reverse look up. WE are sending mails from one IP and our email resolves to other IP which is our email service provider IP. Please help us come out of it and be productive.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are using an ISP public IP to relay mails. WE are a small company can not afford to host all the users in IDC. Out IP is also listed in this 87.blacklist.zap, because of which we are unable to send the mails to anyone. Can I request you to please remove our IP once for all. The reason why my IP always goes to SPAM is reverse look up. WE are sending mails from one IP and our email resolves to other IP which is our email service provider IP. Please help us come out of it and be productive.</p>
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		<title>By: kevin</title>
		<link>/2008/02/29/frontbridges-88blacklistzap/comment-page-2/#comment-16149</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[kevin]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Dec 2008 17:34:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am the owner of a small media company that rents a fully-dedicated server from a web hosting company.  We have seven sites on the server, only one uses our hosted e-mail system (SmarterMail).  The clients have lists that only include their customers.  They send a few communications per week via these lists.  None of the communications come close to spam.  They are text-only e-mails telling hundreds of people important information, like appointment times and instructions for preparing for upcoming meetings.  Pretty dry, informational e-mails.  They are usually just several sentences.  

As I&#039;m sure you can guess, our server was also blocked via 88.blacklist.zap.  I am in the middle of protesting with the company.  It was nice to stumble upon this blog.  Please contact me if anyone ever is inclined to sue these guys.  Count us in.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am the owner of a small media company that rents a fully-dedicated server from a web hosting company.  We have seven sites on the server, only one uses our hosted e-mail system (SmarterMail).  The clients have lists that only include their customers.  They send a few communications per week via these lists.  None of the communications come close to spam.  They are text-only e-mails telling hundreds of people important information, like appointment times and instructions for preparing for upcoming meetings.  Pretty dry, informational e-mails.  They are usually just several sentences.  </p>
<p>As I&#8217;m sure you can guess, our server was also blocked via 88.blacklist.zap.  I am in the middle of protesting with the company.  It was nice to stumble upon this blog.  Please contact me if anyone ever is inclined to sue these guys.  Count us in.</p>
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		<title>By: G</title>
		<link>/2008/02/29/frontbridges-88blacklistzap/comment-page-2/#comment-16083</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[G]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Nov 2008 16:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[https://messaging.custhelp.com/cgi-bin/messaging.cfg/php/enduser/std_alp.php

Replying to the email finally works..also you can check out the above link as it is  a direct resolution center for frontbridge]]></description>
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<p>Replying to the email finally works..also you can check out the above link as it is  a direct resolution center for frontbridge</p>
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		<title>By: matilda</title>
		<link>/2008/02/29/frontbridges-88blacklistzap/comment-page-2/#comment-16050</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[matilda]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 23:59:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[hi,
i read all your comments here...and sorry ,my english is maybe not perfect(like the same,like from this frontbridge-people)...know anybody ,of you where is this company from??...because ..the name and the number is something ,what is for me and many other people here in germany -realy familiar!first:frontbridge!-is one of the extrem-right-wing organisations..and the numbers have their own ,meanings!!for example 88-is meaning:HH=heil hitler!..this are in germany the secret-numbers in many titels ,which this people or organisations ,using(in the internet,in mails,or in magazins,books or in any organisations!!).
second:you,we all sit in the same boat!!:)
..you or we ,share maybe the same ideas,we like maybe the same people(actors,political parties,freedom or left-wing stuff!!)..if you toooo,left -wing -thinking...and you  toooo....much friends ,with the same thinking!!!..than you are automaticly ,on their list!!..it happend the same in germany,is always the same system!!-NO ,any differences!!...if somebody ,from you ..think no,never!!ohh,this is not possible!!...i tell you,live all your life in germany and all the time extrem-right-wing peoples surround you!!..you ,believe not in any fairy tales,anymore!..everybody ,have to be careful with everything ,what and who do you write!!
..wish you luck ,guys!!
m.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi,<br />
i read all your comments here&#8230;and sorry ,my english is maybe not perfect(like the same,like from this frontbridge-people)&#8230;know anybody ,of you where is this company from??&#8230;because ..the name and the number is something ,what is for me and many other people here in germany -realy familiar!first:frontbridge!-is one of the extrem-right-wing organisations..and the numbers have their own ,meanings!!for example 88-is meaning:HH=heil hitler!..this are in germany the secret-numbers in many titels ,which this people or organisations ,using(in the internet,in mails,or in magazins,books or in any organisations!!).<br />
second:you,we all sit in the same boat!!:)<br />
..you or we ,share maybe the same ideas,we like maybe the same people(actors,political parties,freedom or left-wing stuff!!)..if you toooo,left -wing -thinking&#8230;and you  toooo&#8230;.much friends ,with the same thinking!!!..than you are automaticly ,on their list!!..it happend the same in germany,is always the same system!!-NO ,any differences!!&#8230;if somebody ,from you ..think no,never!!ohh,this is not possible!!&#8230;i tell you,live all your life in germany and all the time extrem-right-wing peoples surround you!!..you ,believe not in any fairy tales,anymore!..everybody ,have to be careful with everything ,what and who do you write!!<br />
..wish you luck ,guys!!<br />
m.</p>
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		<title>By: Henry</title>
		<link>/2008/02/29/frontbridges-88blacklistzap/comment-page-2/#comment-16045</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Henry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Oct 2008 16:41:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[We are a timeshare company who has close ties to Starwood and their Westin chain of hotels. What confuses me is how can an automated system blacklist us for being in constant communication with our business partners??? Now we have to resort to Yahoo and Hotmail to stay in contact? 

From what I have read here, it seems that either Frontbridge has to rewrite their algoritms, or everyone should stop using thier service.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We are a timeshare company who has close ties to Starwood and their Westin chain of hotels. What confuses me is how can an automated system blacklist us for being in constant communication with our business partners??? Now we have to resort to Yahoo and Hotmail to stay in contact? </p>
<p>From what I have read here, it seems that either Frontbridge has to rewrite their algoritms, or everyone should stop using thier service.</p>
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		<title>By: Peter N. M. Hansteen</title>
		<link>/2008/02/29/frontbridges-88blacklistzap/comment-page-2/#comment-16025</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Peter N. M. Hansteen]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Oct 2008 16:28:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I find the apparently conflicting statements by frontbridge.com employees to be somewhere in the confusing via irriatating to self-incriminating on their part. 

It would be appropriate to remind all blacklisters that as accusers the burden of proof is firmly on them.  If Frontbridge in does not archive samples of messages that trigger blacklisting, they are anything but professional. However, there are indications that they can indeed produce samples when pressed, so the supposed lack of archiving may just be a convenient smokescreen.

In any case a large part of the problem here is that they trust their automated system too much for their own good.  My guess is that whoever wrote the original system years back laughed all the way to the bank when Microsoft bought the company and likely moved on or retired soon after, leaving the machinery in the care of significantly less competent personell.

I don&#039;t have any spare capacity to get much involved, but I wish you the best of luck in the quest to make these incompetents lose money.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find the apparently conflicting statements by frontbridge.com employees to be somewhere in the confusing via irriatating to self-incriminating on their part. </p>
<p>It would be appropriate to remind all blacklisters that as accusers the burden of proof is firmly on them.  If Frontbridge in does not archive samples of messages that trigger blacklisting, they are anything but professional. However, there are indications that they can indeed produce samples when pressed, so the supposed lack of archiving may just be a convenient smokescreen.</p>
<p>In any case a large part of the problem here is that they trust their automated system too much for their own good.  My guess is that whoever wrote the original system years back laughed all the way to the bank when Microsoft bought the company and likely moved on or retired soon after, leaving the machinery in the care of significantly less competent personell.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t have any spare capacity to get much involved, but I wish you the best of luck in the quest to make these incompetents lose money.</p>
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		<title>By: r smith</title>
		<link>/2008/02/29/frontbridges-88blacklistzap/comment-page-2/#comment-16016</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[r smith]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Oct 2008 15:39:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I am still working on this TRUSTe complaints against Microsoft involving these issues.  Microsoft/FrontBridge will not respond at all.  At this point TRUSTe will not give a reasoable response to the complaint.  

I have escalated the matter at the Federal Trade Commission.  I have complained about FTC employees leaving the government and taking jobs with TRUSTe and not properly processing the complaints.  If i cannot get a reasoable answer about this issue I am escalation to the Fraud, Waste, and Abuse Congressional complaint office.

Anyone can typoe in www.frontbridge.com, scroll down , and see the TRUSTe endorsed privacy policy that Microsoft has.  Truste says that somehow this policy to frontbridge.com.  Anyone, including the FTC attorneys, can type it and see for themselves.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am still working on this TRUSTe complaints against Microsoft involving these issues.  Microsoft/FrontBridge will not respond at all.  At this point TRUSTe will not give a reasoable response to the complaint.  </p>
<p>I have escalated the matter at the Federal Trade Commission.  I have complained about FTC employees leaving the government and taking jobs with TRUSTe and not properly processing the complaints.  If i cannot get a reasoable answer about this issue I am escalation to the Fraud, Waste, and Abuse Congressional complaint office.</p>
<p>Anyone can typoe in <a href="http://www.frontbridge.com/" rel="nofollow">http://www.frontbridge.com/</a>, scroll down , and see the TRUSTe endorsed privacy policy that Microsoft has.  Truste says that somehow this policy to frontbridge.com.  Anyone, including the FTC attorneys, can type it and see for themselves.</p>
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